According to this report, the Navy will discharge anyone refusing the jab. According to many of the comments at the bottom of the article, this is an acceptable practice, and those serving should suffer the consequences. This makes me think of where the line is drawn for unconscionable, dangerous, or mission failure decisions by a senior officer. What are the recourses for those that disobey for any of the reasons above? Is there any real military justice? Is there any method for junior officers, or enlisted troops, to relieve those endangering lives, demanding unconscionable actions, or placing the mission of defending the United States at risk?
If someone knows, the comments are open.
If the military and the rest of the country are this stupid, I guess it is time to lay waste and start over. Hope we can last thru it.
ReplyDeleteI’m with Fred. The military is broken.
ReplyDeleteAs a retired Chief Petty Officer, I think I can answer this question. On board ships while out to sea, there is a way that the XO (executive officer) can relieve the CO (Commanding Officer). First when the CO becomes incapacitated by either injury or extreme illness (i.e. Coma). Or if in the judgement of the XO, the CO is mentally incompetent and a danger to the ship. In the latter case, I believe it's only happened once and the XO and the junior officers that supported him were court-martialed and drummed out of the Navy. To remove the CO of a ship is fraught with peril.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the Senior leadership of the Navy, there really is only one mechanism to remove them and that is by the order of the President. Seeing how the President is on board with their actions, the chance of them being removed is slim and none.
Lt. Col Shiller (sp?) actions while morally and ethically correct were not in keeping with the traditions and standards of the Marine Corps and the Navy. I'm actually surprised that he was only reprimanded as I fully expected him to be discharged either Dishonorably or Other Than Honorable.
From an outsiders view, this may indeed seem like the military is broken. But by keeping with the traditions and standards, it will eventually correct itself. However that won't happen until the President who is the Commander in Chief of the Armed services decides to clean house for good or bad. Obama basically cleaned house during his terms and signaled the elevation of Generals and Admirals that shared his worldview (i.e. leftist). It will take a President that is serious about reforming the Military to shake up the leadership. This will likely never happen until we get into another World War. Unfortunately, this will mean many casualties. During WWI and WWII, many leaders were booted out as incompetents' because the men under them were needlessly sacrificed. History repeats itself over and over again.
To sum it all up, the reason why the military can get so screwed up by the leadership and then when in a crisis can right the ship is based on the overriding premise that the Military will always answer to Civilian Leadership. The military is paranoid to an extreme amount that a military coup shall never happen like it has happened in numerous countries throughout history starting with Julius Caesar.
This paints a dark picture of the safety of the nation. I can see where the military must always be throttled from being tyrannical, but the promotion of what are obviously sub-standard officers, simply because someone wants to get rid of them, or do so for self-promotion, is as dangerous as any coup.
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